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Author: Mongrel PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:39 pm    Post subject: http://www.isonews.com/
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Doooohh!

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject:
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So I see your subject url and the one word message. Is there anything else?

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Author: Mongrel PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:06 pm    Post subject:
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fastlanwan - guess you didn't visit the site? Maybe you didn't know who isonews was?

Do a google on them.

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject:
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They got caught for piracy amoung other things. Which I saw the first time, but still don't get what makes this special or different. They aren't the first or the last.

Author: Mongrel PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject:
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Since when does it have to be special or different, fastlanwan? Are you saying that we should not post up anything unless it is special or different? I'd say such a statement as pretty low.

And maybe if you found out who they were you might understand. Obviously you didn't bother. They were one of the largest news sources in the world for illegal "releases" of ripped material.

The place was big enough to warrant a Governmnent statement and a complete takeover of the domain. I'd place that right up there with "special" and "important". All the other ones I have seen just simply disappeared with no trace. The US DOJ felt in important enough to tell everyone what happened.

Now if you need to insult people, why don't you find someone else, dude.

Author: big tomLocation: UK PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:29 am    Post subject:
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i shouldn't really butt in, but i'm still in 'admin mode' from being on my own forum.
I can understand what fastlanwan was saying. it doesn't have to be special or different, but more than one word is generaly good Wink

i'd never heard of the site untill now. because erm, well... err... i buy all my software etc Very Happy so it doesn't interest me.

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:51 am    Post subject:
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Which I saw the first time, but still don't get what makes this special or different.


I meant "I" don't get what makes it special. Maybe you do, that's great. But stop with the insults, I don't want to go there and I hope you don't either.

Author: alittlebitnumb PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:12 am    Post subject:
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I heard of ISONews before, and did not know they were into releasing pirated goods themselves, which leads me to wonder the real story here. Was ISONews busted for the content (like NFO's) or were they distributing, cracking, or violating other copyright laws? Heh, posting cracks or tutorials can be a violation of the DMCA (I never really seen any of that there). So I dunno. I always thought they exposed the scene like textfiles.com and the like.

Were they really busted, or is this a rumor?

Thanks

Author: Mongrel PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:15 am    Post subject:
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of course not fastlanwan - I figured being security-minded people it might interest us to see the other side get their own.

They opened for business in 1998
http://66.201.243.169/about.php3

The powers that be have been hunting isonews for quite some time -
this from Oct 2000:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/q22000/gam20001003002513.htm

They had quite the following - tee shirts and the works"
http://www.grambo.org/pictures/grambo/pages/isonews.htm

You can see they were popular by their discussion board - over 100,000 members and almost 900,000 posts
http://66.201.243.169/forums/

Author: alittlebitnumb PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject:
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Ohh ok, after looking around the forums and the news, it makes sense now. Thanks for the links.

IMHO, this will take a court of law to get the DOJ off their backs, and with copyright laws as tough as they are nowadays, it's gonna be tough to convince a jury they were not involved in the scene, and prosecutors will be just aching to get them on the hot seat.

My question is, what kind of evidence is against them? Actual pirated files? Cracks? Tutorials? I do not think the NFO's alone will bust them. Have they been watching IRC conversations, DCC's, or watching all the forum posts? I have a hard time understanding... are there even charges filed against them?

regards

Author: Mongrel PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:35 am    Post subject:
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alittlebitnumb - not sure - there is almost nothing that I can find about the case or David Rocci except a few quotes on wired ans such. Isonews was quite the large scale operation but their largest competitor is still online. Nothing at all about the court case but he did plead gulity to "conspiring." I figure he plea bargained and got a reduced sentence and narc'ed on others. (that would explain the nearly complete lack of information on the case).

Author: flwLocation: U.S.A. PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:48 am    Post subject:
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haknwak:

Now that's a high quality post. Good job and keep it rolling Cool

Author: ShaolinTigerLocation: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:17 am    Post subject:
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They were the biggest release site, have been for the past 4-5 years, they are being done for involvment in mod-chips I think and conspiracy to pirate.

Nforce is a good replacement though...I heard Very Happy

The ISOnews staff said that it's not a real bust though, just a fake DNS entry.

The news stories certainly look real to me though.

Author: CHeeKY PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:59 am    Post subject:
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they werent the biggest for the past five years, they where just the mostn known which is what there issue was.

www.nforce.nl for all your needs on releases, being going strong for years Smile



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