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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:41 am    Post subject: Dual Processor or 1 BIG MOTHER?!! Reply with quote

I have a friend who is trying to decide whether or not to go with a new system that utilizes dual processors or just get one big processor.

What I want to pose here is what are your different opinions on whether or not dual is better/worse than going with just one big processor?

He mainly uses his computer for 3d modeling and rendering and 3d gaming.

He just wants some opinions from other computer "people." I would appreciate any feedback you could offer!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking that using one powerful processor should be better than having a dual system in one.

first of all, problem would usually occur and it's more difficult to maintain. one is enough, u want double of it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually with a good mobo a dual processor setup will be much quicker even if the processors are slow, ie: 2 p2 400mhz xeons vs 1 p4 1.7ghz. the p2s will beat it out in most software applications becuase they're dividing the workload between the two, and since image rendering is very heavy on the processor and uses a lot of math calculations, i would recommend the dual setup.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myhatisred wrote:
actually with a good mobo a dual processor setup will be much quicker even if the processors are slow, ie: 2 p2 400mhz xeons vs 1 p4 1.7ghz. the p2s will beat it out in most software applications becuase they're dividing the workload between the two, and since image rendering is very heavy on the processor and uses a lot of math calculations, i would recommend the dual setup.


Depends if the OS and the application supports it..

For example you won't find any benefits on Win98 Very Happy

Win2k you will with certain software, but not everything supports SMP.

I would recommend dual CPU's if your friend is into rendering/encoding anything like that as that's VERY CPU intensive and benefits a great deal as long as the Software package supports SMP (3ds Max etc).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he is running WinXp Home, if that helps any. He uses mostly Newtek's Lightwave, Photshop, Illustrator, Macromedia Director, and some Bryce 3d.

Now, with dual processors, will he most likely have to invest in a more sophisticated cooling system, or in english, will he have to buy more fans to keep them cool?

Just inquiring...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, as 2 CPU's wont be running such a high load as 1.

If you do rendering etc with 1 CPU it typically runs at 100% 'till the render completes meaning it needs to be very well cooled.

Depends if he's going for AMD MP's or P4's aswell.

AMD chips typically need more cooling.

Cooling is always a good idea anyway.

But more fans = more noise Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my ideal setup is: 2 athlon MP 2700+ on a nice asus mobo w/ cyclone fans. I actually did setup sumtin like that up for one of my customers. the thing hauls asssssss
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been running a dual P3 600 system for a fair while now.

My advice would be to go for a single CPU machine as I find even with WinXP most of the time it doesnt utilise both CPU's.

The pros of a single CPU system is that you can upgrade the cpu a few months later adding more speed/benefit where as with dual system the cost's will not really be worth it.

I think dual cpu is best suited to server use and for the applications that your friend is going to use current top of the range cpu from AMD/Intel will run them fine.

Go for fast CPU and lots of Ram. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If (and only if) the applications you are planning on running fully support SMP, then go for it (and this includes the OS).

Plus for the first time ever, you will be able to do true multi tasking because of course you cannot multi task on a single CPU.

As others have said, watch out for the cooling issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really do appreciate everyone providing me with their input.

It helps to give him some more opinions on to what to go with.

Responses and concerns..

1)Where would I get the info as to if the applications he uses support SMP? (And could you tell me what SMP stands for)

2)As with pricing, which do you think is the best value for the money?

I greatly appreciate your responses.
Thank you
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emosamurai wrote:

1)Where would I get the info as to if the applications he uses support SMP?


It should be in the docs.

emosamurai wrote:

(And could you tell me what SMP stands for)


http://search390.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid10_gci214218,00.html

emosamurai wrote:

2)As with pricing, which do you think is the best value for the money?


Well MP CPU's aren't much more expensive, but the motherboards are.

I'd go for AMD MP CPU's as I prefer AMD as you get more bang from the buck Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Shaolin!

I will let my friend know of what I have found out and I will keep everyone informed, if anyone really cares, as to what he decides.

Again, thank you.
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